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Might be different for luftwaffe, but camo pattern in SS doesn't come in until very late war and is hence very limited in usabilty. I dont think Heer ever had camo...? I've seen some zeltbahn pattern helmet covers, but not sure on the historical accuracy of such things


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The SS had plenty of camouflage uniforms going back to pre-war days. There are about 8 patterns of SS camo, and the SS were big users of camo helmet covers and smocks for the entire war.
The Heer certainly did have plenty of camo - the splittermuster pattern came in 1931. Helmet covers etc. are more common late war but were about for the entire war. Smocks in Splittermuster-A were not as common but did exist.
The Splittermuster-B that Barcid is showing came into service in 1941 for the jump smocks.


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I havent seen the splinter B pattern with any vendors...Im not sure if Spearhead do them, might be worth asking. They do it in other stuff like helmet covers and caps...maybe they'll do it in a jump smock.

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Stefan, where did you get your jump smock? Spearhead?


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Stefan, where did you get your jump smock? Spearhead?

yes it is a "spearhead original".


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mmmmmmmspearheady goodness.

*bloody loose buttons*

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Barcid, yes. According to my Chris Mason book on the FJ, the cammo came in just in time for Kreta.
Obviously most on Crete still had the apple-green smocks, but the cammo smocks are correct for Kreta through to the Götterdämmerung.
Though to be technical for Kreta, they were the type II smocks - with the step in shorts. However, it was a very common field modification to convert them to the button up, so you are still right to wear the Type III.


Re-reading it all you were asking about the TAN backed Splinter-B?
I'm not sure about it - Stefan might have to look at my FJ book to give the answer on this variation.


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Here you can see "someone" with a Splinter-B smock - buttoning up some zeltbahnen (which weren't made in Splinter-B, only A).
Although the pattern is very similar, you can see the pattern is much smaller on the smock (Splinter-B).


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Who is that ugly guy? I would hate to be him.


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I just sold my Smock to Eugene so I will need another one eventually.

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At the Front sells splinter B smocks ($200-250 US plus postage). His website has an explanation of the difference between splinter A & B. B is a Luftwaffe pattern.


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Your pic is definitely right as to it being the right camo pattern (Splinter-B)


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Probably better to get Spearhead's smock, the pattern is correct and it is less than half the price.


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I checked the mighty reference book - there is no difference between tan and green background smocks - just different manufacturers had widely differing base shades of cloth.
There is a good colour picture in the book of original smocks, all differing shades of green through to tan.


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 Post subject: Re: Tan background splinter smocks & helmet covers
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rarity FJ KNOKENSAK for African
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