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 Post subject: Valkyrie....the Hollywood version
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:13 pm 
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I just watched the Tom Cruise version of Valkyrie the other day...I know, I know...Im behind the times. :roll: But I have to say, bar the STUPID modern Marine Salute that Tommy gives the soon to be dead Dakky General...it was actually quite a good film. The suspense level was pretty good, and you have to feel sorry for von Stauffenberg after all the hard effort to get so close and yet not make the mark....if its any consulation, what a bunch of people couldnt do up until April 30th 1945...Hitler did the job properly. BANG!! :lol:

The doco after the film was awesome! heaps of cool WW2 footage and info. The filming on the actual spot where von Stauffenberg was executed is pretty freaky...being that it is pretty much the only place in Germany that "remembers" the fallen. Well worth it for the 2 second battle scene in the begining...although, me being the horror film fanatic that I am, I thought the scene where TC was shaving without the eye patch or prosthetic eye in looked very cool! All of the machinery and uniforms looked pretty good, I definitely want a DAK calendar that TC was writing in at the begining....

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 Post subject: Re: Valkyrie....the Hollywood version
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:40 pm 
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Yeah, I was pleasently surprised with the film, especially from TC. Only bad thing was the accents, yuk!


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 Post subject: Re: Valkyrie....the Hollywood version
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Yeah...that killed it. But, in saying that, it was well done regardless. They have to use "American" accents in hollywood films otherwise the Americans dont understand the lingo. Tsk. A friend of mine recently went to America, they have nearly 200 channels on their TV (probably a slight over estimation) and of those high amount of channels, they have only 2 Latin American channels. No British, No European, No Australian, No Asian....its all Yankee Doodle Dandy....no wonder the poor buggers are uneducated in worldly issues...

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 Post subject: Re: Valkyrie....the Hollywood version
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:10 pm 
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Haha, no surprises there really


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 Post subject: Re: Valkyrie....the Hollywood version
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:31 am 
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We had a thread on this subject earlier, but I can't find it on the site now. There have been a couple of German productions of the 20th July 1944 plot.
The recent American one isn't that great, and Tom Cruise's accent hurts my ears!
There were problems witht he film from the inception; German government was concerned about two things: 1. the Hollywood factor of turning their history into a circus, when they have enough issues to deal with; and 2. the German government regards Scientology (Tom Cruise's cult of choice) as a money making enterprise and a subversive cult.
For a contemporary German view, read this: http://www.spiegel.de/international/ger ... 56,00.html


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 Post subject: Re: Valkyrie....the Hollywood version
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Yeah...strangely enough Eugene, there's a doco at the end of the film about that very subject. They had a lot of legal wrangling due the fact they wanted to shoot the execution scene right where it happened. As it turned out, the German Govt. allowed it to happen as they soon realised that Hollywood was actually paying homage to the patriots who lost their lives trying to save Germany, not make some Yankee shoot em up. The doco is worth viewing as it goes right through the whole plot and historically shows what happened, and get this, Hollywood wasnt too far off in its story telling! :o shock awe and surprise!! but for $12.98 from JB Hifi, the film is worth that for the making of and the doco....

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 Post subject: Re: Valkyrie....the Hollywood version
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Jebus Dave, youve been reenacting nearly as long as Ive been alive.... :shock: I guess you've seen your fair share of "group dynamics" :lol:

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